[Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies

Ingrid & Eric Holzman ieholzman at verizon.net
Wed Sep 6 07:41:30 CDT 2006 

David,

I'm sorry to hear about your father-in-law.  I hope it resolves itself soon.

I agree with you that Steve tended to take unnecessary risks.  The incident 
with Bob is definitely one that I was appalled by.  Also, putting his face 
up to that of a venomous snake as well as putting his hand near the mouth of 
a crocodile.  Those were foolish actions and he often got bit, albeit they 
weren't deadly.  I can't help but feel that he swam way too close to the 
stingray that killed him.  The barb was supposedly 8" long and in order for 
it to impale his ribs/heart the way it did means he was right on top of the 
ray, not 1 meter above it.  He always got close to the animals he worked 
with and this time it was deadly.  I can only hope that others interested in 
doing the type of work he did will recognize that his methods were not 
always the most appropriate.

What are your thoughts about a State funeral?  I recognize his importance in 
Australia, but I'm not sure it warrants a State funeral.  Talk about 
hard-hearted! ;-)

Ingrid
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies


> Hi Ingrid and Robyn,
>
> I have been around but have been very busy.  My wife's Dad in Poland is 88
> and has required a lot of intervention and this has been a bit 
> distracting.
> I have been keeping an eye on proceedings though.
>
> I have never been a Steve Irwin fan.  I acknowledge that he has done a lot
> for conservation and was used extensively by our quarantine service but he
> did lots of very silly things.  The incident with Bob and the crocodile
> immediately comes to mind but there were others such as when he went too
> close to protected animals in the Antarctic.  IMHO he was an accident
> waiting to happen.  Of course I feel sympathy for his family and their 
> loss
> but little for him.
>
> Sorry for being hard hearted.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>> Eric Holzman
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:55 AM
>> To: Mishmash
>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>
>> Hey David,
>>
>> It's wonderful to see your e-mail in my inbox.  It's
>> incredibly sad what happened, particularly when I think about
>> his two young children, but one has to realize that with the
>> type of job he had, there were risks involved.
>> Granted, this was a freak accident.  For me, knowing that his
>> death seemed to be quick was somewhat consoling.  I can only
>> hope the family can take solace in that knowledge as well.
>>
>> Ingrid
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
>> To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have been quiet but I thought I might give you some local detail.
>> >
>> > Irwin was snorkling on the reef in a break from a doco he
>> was making.  He
>> > was relaxing by filming some stuff for another project.  He
>> snorkeled over
>> > a
>> > bull ray.  The ray struck him with its tail in the chest.
>> He pulled the
>> > barb out died within a minute.
>> >
>> > There is an article and video at this url.
>> > http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=232744&GT1=7703
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>> >> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>> >> Eric Holzman
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:52 PM
>> >> To: Mishmash
>> >> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>> >>
>> >> We watched quite a bit on Animal Planet last night.  My son
>> >> liked him a lot.
>> >> He did a lot for animal conservation and was very
>> >> knowledgable.  It's sad that one freak accident is leaving
>> >> two beautiful young children without a father.
>> >>
>> >> Ingrid
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson at mishmash.com>
>> >> To: "Mishmash" <Mishmash at mishmash.net>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:50 AM
>> >> Subject: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Folks,
>> >> >
>> >> >     Steve Irwn died in a tragic incident while filming.
>> >> For those of you
>> >> > who might not know, he's the fellow on The Discovery
>> >> Channel known as 'The
>> >> > Crocodile Hunter'.  Here's a link to the story:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> http://articles.news.aol.com/entertainment/_a/crocodile-hunter
>> >> -steve-irwins-death/20060904005509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>       Fred
>> >> >
>> >> >
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