[Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies

Ingrid & Eric Holzman ieholzman at verizon.net
Wed Sep 6 07:49:34 CDT 2006 

I agree that he deserves special recognition, but a State funeral is quite 
formal and really not befitting his personality.  He definitely did a great 
deal with conservation and awareness.  Kids and adults alike learned alot 
about wildlife through his programs.  His legacy will continue for many 
years to come.

Ingrid
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson at mishmash.com>
To: <mishmash at mishmash.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies


> Ingrid,
>
>     I certainly think that Steve Irwin deserves some special recognition. 
> In spite of the risks he took, his heart was in the right place.  And like 
> a lot of Australians, he is a very likeable sort.  He did a lot to educate 
> a lot of us (and primarily our young) about the issues of wildlife and the 
> importance of conservation.
>
>     Regards,
>
>
>
>                                               Fred Atkinson
>
> --- ieholzman at verizon.net wrote:
>
> From: "Ingrid & Eric Holzman" <ieholzman at verizon.net>
> To: "Mishmash" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:41:30 -0400
>
> David,
>
> I'm sorry to hear about your father-in-law.  I hope it resolves itself 
> soon.
>
> I agree with you that Steve tended to take unnecessary risks.  The 
> incident
> with Bob is definitely one that I was appalled by.  Also, putting his face
> up to that of a venomous snake as well as putting his hand near the mouth 
> of
> a crocodile.  Those were foolish actions and he often got bit, albeit they
> weren't deadly.  I can't help but feel that he swam way too close to the
> stingray that killed him.  The barb was supposedly 8" long and in order 
> for
> it to impale his ribs/heart the way it did means he was right on top of 
> the
> ray, not 1 meter above it.  He always got close to the animals he worked
> with and this time it was deadly.  I can only hope that others interested 
> in
> doing the type of work he did will recognize that his methods were not
> always the most appropriate.
>
> What are your thoughts about a State funeral?  I recognize his importance 
> in
> Australia, but I'm not sure it warrants a State funeral.  Talk about
> hard-hearted! ;-)
>
> Ingrid
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
> To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>
>
>> Hi Ingrid and Robyn,
>>
>> I have been around but have been very busy.  My wife's Dad in Poland is 
>> 88
>> and has required a lot of intervention and this has been a bit
>> distracting.
>> I have been keeping an eye on proceedings though.
>>
>> I have never been a Steve Irwin fan.  I acknowledge that he has done a 
>> lot
>> for conservation and was used extensively by our quarantine service but 
>> he
>> did lots of very silly things.  The incident with Bob and the crocodile
>> immediately comes to mind but there were others such as when he went too
>> close to protected animals in the Antarctic.  IMHO he was an accident
>> waiting to happen.  Of course I feel sympathy for his family and their
>> loss
>> but little for him.
>>
>> Sorry for being hard hearted.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> David
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>>> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>>> Eric Holzman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:55 AM
>>> To: Mishmash
>>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>>
>>> Hey David,
>>>
>>> It's wonderful to see your e-mail in my inbox.  It's
>>> incredibly sad what happened, particularly when I think about
>>> his two young children, but one has to realize that with the
>>> type of job he had, there were risks involved.
>>> Granted, this was a freak accident.  For me, knowing that his
>>> death seemed to be quick was somewhat consoling.  I can only
>>> hope the family can take solace in that knowledge as well.
>>>
>>> Ingrid
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
>>> To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I have been quiet but I thought I might give you some local detail.
>>> >
>>> > Irwin was snorkling on the reef in a break from a doco he
>>> was making.  He
>>> > was relaxing by filming some stuff for another project.  He
>>> snorkeled over
>>> > a
>>> > bull ray.  The ray struck him with its tail in the chest.
>>> He pulled the
>>> > barb out died within a minute.
>>> >
>>> > There is an article and video at this url.
>>> > http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=232744&GT1=7703
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > David
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>>> >> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>>> >> Eric Holzman
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:52 PM
>>> >> To: Mishmash
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>> >>
>>> >> We watched quite a bit on Animal Planet last night.  My son
>>> >> liked him a lot.
>>> >> He did a lot for animal conservation and was very
>>> >> knowledgable.  It's sad that one freak accident is leaving
>>> >> two beautiful young children without a father.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ingrid
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson at mishmash.com>
>>> >> To: "Mishmash" <Mishmash at mishmash.net>
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:50 AM
>>> >> Subject: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Folks,
>>> >> >
>>> >> >     Steve Irwn died in a tragic incident while filming.
>>> >> For those of you
>>> >> > who might not know, he's the fellow on The Discovery
>>> >> Channel known as 'The
>>> >> > Crocodile Hunter'.  Here's a link to the story:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> http://articles.news.aol.com/entertainment/_a/crocodile-hunter
>>> >> -steve-irwins-death/20060904005509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>>       Fred
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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