[Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies

Ingrid & Eric Holzman ieholzman at verizon.net
Wed Sep 6 20:30:47 CDT 2006 

I'd heard what his father said.  Yes, Steve did seem like an ordinary 
"bloke" and the idea of a State funeral was too stuffy, imho.

Ingrid
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies


> Hi Ingrid,
>
> I was honestly appalled at the idea of a State funeral.   I could not 
> think
> of anything less appropriate.  Firstly because he was a clown but secondly
> because it was not consistent with his persona.  He portrayed himself as 
> an
> ordinary Aussie bloke.  Blokes don’t have State funerals.
>
> The latest I heard was that his father did not want it but the final
> decision is with his wife.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>> Eric Holzman
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 10:42 PM
>> To: Mishmash
>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear about your father-in-law.  I hope it
>> resolves itself soon.
>>
>> I agree with you that Steve tended to take unnecessary risks.
>>  The incident with Bob is definitely one that I was appalled
>> by.  Also, putting his face up to that of a venomous snake as
>> well as putting his hand near the mouth of a crocodile.
>> Those were foolish actions and he often got bit, albeit they
>> weren't deadly.  I can't help but feel that he swam way too
>> close to the stingray that killed him.  The barb was
>> supposedly 8" long and in order for it to impale his
>> ribs/heart the way it did means he was right on top of the
>> ray, not 1 meter above it.  He always got close to the
>> animals he worked with and this time it was deadly.  I can
>> only hope that others interested in doing the type of work he
>> did will recognize that his methods were not always the most
>> appropriate.
>>
>> What are your thoughts about a State funeral?  I recognize
>> his importance in Australia, but I'm not sure it warrants a
>> State funeral.  Talk about hard-hearted! ;-)
>>
>> Ingrid
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
>> To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>
>>
>> > Hi Ingrid and Robyn,
>> >
>> > I have been around but have been very busy.  My wife's Dad
>> in Poland is 88
>> > and has required a lot of intervention and this has been a bit
>> > distracting.
>> > I have been keeping an eye on proceedings though.
>> >
>> > I have never been a Steve Irwin fan.  I acknowledge that he
>> has done a lot
>> > for conservation and was used extensively by our quarantine
>> service but he
>> > did lots of very silly things.  The incident with Bob and
>> the crocodile
>> > immediately comes to mind but there were others such as
>> when he went too
>> > close to protected animals in the Antarctic.  IMHO he was
>> an accident
>> > waiting to happen.  Of course I feel sympathy for his
>> family and their
>> > loss
>> > but little for him.
>> >
>> > Sorry for being hard hearted.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>> >> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>> >> Eric Holzman
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:55 AM
>> >> To: Mishmash
>> >> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>> >>
>> >> Hey David,
>> >>
>> >> It's wonderful to see your e-mail in my inbox.  It's
>> >> incredibly sad what happened, particularly when I think about
>> >> his two young children, but one has to realize that with the
>> >> type of job he had, there were risks involved.
>> >> Granted, this was a freak accident.  For me, knowing that his
>> >> death seemed to be quick was somewhat consoling.  I can only
>> >> hope the family can take solace in that knowledge as well.
>> >>
>> >> Ingrid
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
>> >> To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:48 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have been quiet but I thought I might give you some
>> local detail.
>> >> >
>> >> > Irwin was snorkling on the reef in a break from a doco he
>> >> was making.  He
>> >> > was relaxing by filming some stuff for another project.  He
>> >> snorkeled over
>> >> > a
>> >> > bull ray.  The ray struck him with its tail in the chest.
>> >> He pulled the
>> >> > barb out died within a minute.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is an article and video at this url.
>> >> > http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=232744&GT1=7703
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > David
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>> >> >> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>> >> >> Eric Holzman
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:52 PM
>> >> >> To: Mishmash
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We watched quite a bit on Animal Planet last night.  My son
>> >> >> liked him a lot.
>> >> >> He did a lot for animal conservation and was very
>> >> >> knowledgable.  It's sad that one freak accident is leaving
>> >> >> two beautiful young children without a father.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ingrid
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson at mishmash.com>
>> >> >> To: "Mishmash" <Mishmash at mishmash.net>
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:50 AM
>> >> >> Subject: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Folks,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >     Steve Irwn died in a tragic incident while filming.
>> >> >> For those of you
>> >> >> > who might not know, he's the fellow on The Discovery
>> >> >> Channel known as 'The
>> >> >> > Crocodile Hunter'.  Here's a link to the story:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> http://articles.news.aol.com/entertainment/_a/crocodile-hunter
>> >> >> -steve-irwins-death/20060904005509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >>       Fred
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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