[Mishmash] FOX News Video: Hero Professor

Thu Apr 19 15:41:29 CDT 2007

We agree. My point was we need to look at a status that says you can be 
here, own a business, and still be a non-citizen.

But then again, I object to duel citizenship as well.

Hugh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ingrid & Eric Holzman" <ieholzman at verizon.net>
To: "Mishmash" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Mishmash] FOX News Video: Hero Professor

> Hugh,
>
> I haven't heard that this individual's parents are here illegally.  They 
> own
> a dry-cleaning business.  I believe that in order for them to have that,
> they cannot be illegal.  I don't disagree that we need to do something 
> about
> the undocumented individuals in our country, but let's not point the 
> finger
> and say that all foreigners cause the heinous crimes such as that which
> happened at Virginia Tech.
>
> The boys who shot up Columbine were born & raised here in America.  The
> unibomber is American.  The Oklahoma City bombers...American.  It's not 
> just
> undocumented non-citizens who wreak havoc upon our nation.  When we look 
> at
> the bottom line, these are individuals who are deeply disturbed. 
> Regardless
> of where they were born or if they are legal or not, it was a mental 
> health
> issue in all of the heinous crimes I mentioned.
>
> Ingrid
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hugh Gigante" <hgigante at optonline.net>
> To: "Mishmash" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] FOX News Video: Hero Professor
>
>
>> Ingrid:
>>
>> One of my on-going problems with the legal/illegal alien thing is that it
>> is
>> a black and white issue people try to make misty.
>>
>> Its real simple . . . either someone is here in a legal fashion, or they
>> are
>> not. As we have defined non-citizens as requiring documentation, anyone
>> who
>> is not a citizen should be required to get that documentation. If that
>> means
>> a child, then his or her parents should be required to do so.
>>
>> And nobody should be allowed to stay for extended periods of time without
>> it.
>>
>> Maybe if we handled the whole thing as the black and white issue it 
>> really
>> is, we wouldn't have the moaning and groaning we seem to love going
>> through.
>> Remember the Malvo guy who shot up people in the DC area a few years ago?
>> He
>> was a non-registered alien. Our wonderful employees in the government 
>> were
>> processing a series of hearings . . . about what???? If someone is
>> standing
>> inside the country and does not belong inside the country, they a simply
>> put
>> breaking a law. Walkint them to the nearest exit sooms the only logical
>> next
>> step.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ingrid & Eric Holzman" <ieholzman at verizon.net>
>> To: "Mishmash" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] FOX News Video: Hero Professor
>>
>>
>>> Hugh,
>>>
>>> This individual came over with his family when he was 8 years old.  His
>>> family started a business and were productive members of our society.
>>> Obviously, a visa or work permit did not apply to this person.  My
>>> brother
>>> came over with my parents from Holland when he was 10.  Should he have
>>> had
>>> a
>>> visa or work permit.  BTW, he is almost 58 years old and became a 
>>> citizen
>>> less than 10 years ago.  Prior to that he was still a Dutch National.
>>> Using
>>> your logic, my brother should have been deported for not having the
>>> correct
>>> papers before he was even done with elementary school.
>>>
>>> Ingrid
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Hugh Gigante" <hgigante at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Mishmash" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] FOX News Video: Hero Professor
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey, we've already progressed to where this guy is a victim himself . .
>>>> .
>>>> give it a few days and we will have placed the blame squarely on
>>>> society.
>>>>
>>>> My only general take on this so far is why do we let anyone say in the
>>>> country for 14 years on any form of visa or work permit?
>>>>
>>>> Hugh
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Robyne Kerr" <Robyne.Kerr at utas.edu.au>
>>>> To: "Mishmash" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] FOX News Video: Hero Professor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Hugh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I love the media on this one . . . hundreds of reporters out there
>>>>>>working
>>>>>>on their pulitzer or promotion . .  .especially like the gun control
>>>>>>crap
>>>>>>they push out . . . like this guy and other crimminals who don't obey
>>>>>>laws
>>>>>>now weill obey a new one!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hugh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> this also get to me the gun controls will never stop this sort of
>>>>> thing or criminals, but it is always mentioned after an event like
>>>>> this. This person could have killed as many people by just driving
>>>>> into a crowd. We can't control other peoples minds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robyne
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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