[Mishmash] Can it really be?????

[Hugh Gigante]

I was with you until the compromise comment.

I agree with that . . . smokers and non-smokers should be able to share the 
public space they both own.

But what compromise in private places? Since when does someone have to 
compromise with people he or she shares nothing with?

Smoking laws are nothing but freedom restrictions. You can talk and make 
good cases for the benefits, dangers, and whatever about the habit, but the 
minute you let some goverment hack tell you what to do with private assets, 
you're on the road to a socialist state.

An easy test of your agreement with the concept is to pick another legal 
activity, and replace it in any non-smoking statement (like the sign that 
says "smoking prohibited within 15 feet". If, with the replacement, the 
statement makes sense it will for smoking. If not . . .

Hugh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <LCR at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Mishmash" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Can it really be?????


>
> I am a non-smoker and the smoke chokes me when someone smokes in my 
> "space"
> but no matter how we feel about smoking, it's still a person's individual
> right to choose whether they smoke or not.
>
>  I believe that most employers are concerned with health issues and
> insurance costs in making some of their decisions.  If you smoke you can 
> be
> sure that you will have health problems in the future.  I believe that 
> most
> people who smoke know that, and are aware and it's their choice that they
> continue to smoke.
>
> I think that Hugh sees it as a non-government issue and the point of not
> taking more of his rights away, and it is his choice.  Looking at it from
> both sides, Hugh has his right to smoke if he chooses too, I have my right
> not to be subjected to cigarette smoke.  So a compromise should be worked
> out. Because of the health issue, employers opt for the smokers to be
> outside and away from the building thus making it look like the smokers 
> are
> discrimated against. There are more non-smokers in society now than 
> smokers
> which was not the case several years ago.
>
>  It is also a fire issue now.  In my workplace, they used to let the
> smokers smoke outside the doors and under the porches on the building. 
> Now
> they have to be several yards from the building, so they are letting them
> smoke under the carport in the parking area.  This idea was not accepted
> well but they have to comply.  It's cold out there, and they have to walk 
> in
> the snow and ice to get to the carport which is not far from the building,
> maybe 100 yards.  Thus the smokers feel like they are being mistreated.
>
> We have HIPPA laws governing us here concerning all health matters.  We 
> have
> privacy in all medical records.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>> Smoking is a disgusting, dibilitating habit  and I don't miss dodging 
>> that
>> bullet - my concern about all the non-smoking legislation being passed is
>> that once that "right" is gone, what will be next under fire.   Actually,
>> I can answer that - trans-fats in foods.  Effective  January 1st here in
>> Calgary restaurants had to convert to trans-fat free cooking oils.  I
>> heard New York has already gone trans-fat free but don't know if that's
>> been legislated or is voluntary.
>>
>> Government intrusion into our lives here in Canada is insidious and out 
>> of
>> control - I didn't go for my annual physical last fall and I had a letter
>> a few weeks ago from the Department of Health telling me to go get one -
>> and brochures on the dangers of breast cancer, etc.  I am apalled and so
>> angry - this a total invastion of privacy but there's nothing I can do -
>> in Alberta, your health records are not confidential.
>>
>> Enough ranting -
>>
>> Susan
>> Calgary
>>
>>
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